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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 01:40:39 PM »

I give up.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 01:53:08 PM »

Ok, I nearly died about 3 years ago, she took care of me, probably saved my life because she insisted I go to hospital and had I not, I wouldn't be here. When she was not in the storm, she took took care of me. So I guess I have an I owe her complex, because I know this is not who she was.

My gut reaction is to build a website and put all this shit for everyone to see and hear, after all she projected false shit on hundreds of FB friends. I have also watched her have hot flashes and major rashes, fan beside the bed for 6 months prior to the storm and affairs. Very moody, so I am having a problem getting mean. Just before we moved out of the house, e was outside and she was saying how she never even texted OB, it was just her and the kids messing around and I just looked at her and said I don't believe you, but I really think she believes herself. ie: she is sufffering from a mental illness. How to you destroy/get mean/etc if you trully believe she is suffering from an illness. I am having such a hard time with that part.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2010, 02:14:11 PM »

You asked for HELP (for "direction") because your life right now is painful.

Many guys ... who have been EXACTLY where you are ... gave you hard-won, blood/sweat/tears guidance on exactly HOW to extract yourself from this torture and begin to SURVIVE your wife's midlife experience, instead of just EXPERIENCING it.

Your response (like so many -- you're not the only one) ... is to talk about how YOUR case is DIFFERENT.
(My case is different because I almost DIED three years ago and she told me to go to a hospital. My case is different because my wife may or may not have spread her legs to a kid half her age... she may have just been KIDDING about doing him or thinking about doing him.)

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR WIFE ... we are trying to SAVE your life.

Pexio has said this OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN: In order to SAVE your marriage, you must be WILLING to destroy it.

You're not being MEAN when you ask her to choose YOU/THE MARRIAGE over strangers/pondscum/OMs.
YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR YOUR MARRIAGE, not AGAINST IT or HER!!!

I agree with you: WHO YOUR WIFE IS RIGHT NOW is NOT who she WAS.

So let's say she had CANCER instead of a MIDLIFE CRISIS.
If the doctor tells you, we need to DESTROY those cancerous cells with chemotherapy (but, in the meantime, we are probably going to also kill some nice normal, healthy cells), would you say, "NO ... I cannot let you HARM my wife with your treatment, even though it might (VERY LIKELY WILL ) save her life?"

You'd say, "Doctor, do whatever you need to do to save my wife's life."

That's EXACTLY what we are saying to you right now, sosad.
We are saying that you have to KILL her desire to continue to pursue Other Men in order to SAVE your marriage.

Just like with chemo, there is a risk. There's a risk that the chemo could weaken the patient and kill her ... or that the chemo might not work at all, and the cancer will spread, and she will die.

The same with anti-MLC therapy. There is a risk that you asking her to CHOOSE will cause her to leave the marriage. Pursue more OMs. But you don't seem to realize that THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!!

Oh, and by the way: Asking her to choose (and then not FOLLOWING THROUGH with detachment, divorce, self-improvement) are like getting diagnosed with cancer, starting chemo, and then continuing to smoke.

I get that your wife is SICK ... but you are WITHHOLDING the treatment that is the ONLY defense that has shown ANY kind of impact. When there is an OM (even the THOUGHT of one, given her past indiscretions), the ONLY thing you can do is detach, set your boundaries, and move forward as if she WILL NOT be a part of your life in the future.

STOP TRYING TO FIX HER and STOP trying to influence your mutual friends.
I don't usually advocate taking the high road (by all means, you should tell the truth when you are asked about it), but you're wasting your TIME & ENERGY if you think building a website to expose all of this is going to help ANYTHING. It's not. It won't even make you FEEL BETTER, because you'll have to be exposed to all that crap again in order to post it.

Let it go.
Let it go.
Let it go.
Just let it go.  Kiss
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2010, 03:52:07 PM »

Dear SoSad

Bud --- you've can do a few things:

1.  Get the hell out of this so-called relationship.  (My recommended option.)
2.  Keep ignoring the advice give on this site, follow the "whoa is me" line you've been using, and wonder why nothing is changing in your life.  Why you would volunteer to power wash her drive way, or go looking at cars with her is one for the books.
3.  Do absolutely nothing.  Yup, doing nothing is a choose.  I tried that one and the outcome is pretty dismal. 

So, get off your arse and do something --- something different, LIKE, getting rid of this woman.

Based on your postings, I believe you think a foo'kin fairy godmother is going to come fluttering into the meadow, spooge fairy dust all over you POS wife, and make things magically better.  Sir, it is not going to happen.

By the way, the best detachment is NO CONTACT.  And, NO CONTACT means just that.  And, those people you call friends sure and the hell don't seem like friends to me.  Ditch those sh#thead too.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2010, 03:55:22 PM »

Thank you for that, I actually was thinking the same exact thing (Cancer).... What you have said makes sense. Is obvious that this can't continue like this. It has been obvious.

We went to look at cars for the kids, not her. She paid half and so did I, she knows nothing about cars, so I got that one. She came along since she was paying half.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2010, 04:11:34 PM »

Well, the friend part, if a woman came crying knocking on your door at 11pm in distress, the abusive husband is going to go crazy, sob, sob, and you can't see behind closed doors. I can't blame them totally. She did this shit to me for the 1st 60 days until I found a counselor and this site and the counselor helped me unwrite the rewritten history that had been played on me, so I can't blame the neighbors totally. In fact, I feel sorry that she did this to them. She played them the emotional Ace Card......

Any person that would go out to eat with the daughter and me, then be on facebook saying, can't wait to get rid of him 2 hours later, then 2 days later text me and ask when I was coming home for supper as supper was ready. Or look at me with a straight face when I ignore her and say, are you mad at me or something. WOW, I guess gone with the wind would be fitting...

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Devise plan and stick to it........

Give her speech --- followup with papers served the follwowing day - Enforce 50/50 custody w 16 yo daughter -- Get me my own pet so I do not have to share pets, go to Laundry Mat - Excercise workout jog daily - Go to church - Get a life without her ! Period !

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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2010, 04:32:48 PM »

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Any person that would go out to eat with the daughter and me, then be on facebook saying, can't wait to get rid of him 2 hours later, then 2 days later text me and ask when I was coming home for supper as supper was ready. Or look at me with a straight face when I ignore her and say, are you mad at me or something. WOW, I guess gone with the wind would be fitting...

Wow. You're demon sounds like it really really likes to fuck with your mind. 

I used the word demon, because a normal functioning female human would not be doing what it is doing.

She needs to be exorcised....and the only way that will happen is if you take your ball, bat and bases and go home.  Game over.   Mr. Reality has some real work to do on this one.  You need to open the door and enable reality to seep in.  Doing what you are doing doesn't work, not at all.

Your demon is an emotional terrorist that needs to be extricated from you asap.


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Give her speech --- followup with papers served the follwowing day - Enforce 50/50 custody w 16 yo daughter -- Get me my own pet so I do not have to share pets, go to Laundry Mat - Excercise workout jog daily - Go to church - Get a life without her ! Period !

First step is to go NC, as in dark.  Get this down first.  This enables detachment.  You need some alone time, IMO, to chill out and get your mind at an even keel.
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2010, 04:41:49 PM »

Agree 100% with Angel on this one.
You need to go COMPLETE NO CONTACT for at least 1 week before you deliver your speech.

This will give you time to CALM YOUR EMOTIONS and get your ducks in a row.
Meet with a lawyer (if you haven't already).
Find the nearest laundromat.  Tongue

If she tries to call, don't answer. Don't return messages.
If she texts you, don't respond.
If she drops by hour house or work, don't answer the door ... or go to the men's room (if at work).
Do NOT engage. She will try to create drama & conflict with you. Walk away (again, the restroom works, if the door has a lock. Bring your headphones.)

Also during this time:
- You might consider individual counseling and/or medications to help you sleep. Things are likely to get WORSE before they get BETTER (for you).
- Treat yourself to a new outfit and a haircut. Take some pride in your appearance. (It also has the effect of making her think you're spiffing yourself up for someone else. Jealousy is a BIG trigger for these women ... if they think you're moving on, they will hoover like CRAZY!!)
- Do that ONE THING you used to like to do before she convinced you not to do it anymore (it might be fishing, motorcycling, line dancing ... whatever). Go alone. Make some new friends at a hobby you would like to take up again.

Your kids are old enough that anything she tries to drag you into will likely involve them. Don't get sucked in by that ... and don't talk to the kids about it either.

Stop chasing her. Stop enabling her. Stop appeasing her. Stop talking to her!

REMEMBER THIS:
YOU CAN ONLY CONTROL YOU.

Remind yourself of that often.
And read this article daily:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/14712-developing-detachment/
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2010, 07:30:15 PM »

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.  At this point, and we've all been there...your mindset is bordering on the irrational.  WE ALL GO THROUGH THIS.  But here's the deal--she is essentially out to destroy you with what she continues to do. Draw a line in the sand and shout (to yourself)..."NO MORE.  I AM WORTH IT.  I DESERVE BETTER.". She's dead, bro.  Time to leave the corpse and save yourself.  And save your kids.  You are their model for relationships...  You gave it a go.  She cheated...you tried...your alien, of zero character, chose to destroy the family as you know it.  It is now your opportunity to rebuild it...and that is without her, as she destroys all that she touches.  She's killing you man...don't give her that power over you.  She will reap the consequences of her own sin; you CANNOT save her.  God will not be mocked, and vengeance is his.  Time to get out, save yourself, and be the
An you need to be to your daughter...
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2010, 09:29:39 PM »

And Sosad,
Stay off her damn FB page please.
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2010, 10:45:16 PM »

And Sosad,
Stay off her damn FB page please.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!! 

Oh--geez...  This one made me laugh out loud.  Ooohh the applicability to my own life...

Not because it ever applied to me...  right?  Right? 
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2010, 10:58:03 PM »

I was looking for the "LIKE" button to click on Pexio's post ...  Shocked
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2010, 10:47:49 AM »

We all went through what you are currently going through.

The thing is the one's who moved through this path the quickest come out better, quicker.

Wether it be she runs like a scalded cat and finishes the destruction she has initiated, or she starts to straighten out and fly right, it will be profoundly better for you and everyone else involved than living in the middle.

Sitting around waiting for her to feel differently doesn't work.  It's a recipe for personal destruction, frankly.

Also, quit letting other people rent space in your head in regards to how they feel about what she has done.  Focus on what you can control.  Put some physical and emotional distance between yourself and the alien, establish emotional and physical boundaries and enforce them.  Take control of you.  Let her continue to have no control over herself.....you cannot fix her.

If you look around there are only a few of us here who made it through this storm with our marriages intact.  I would state that one of the defining principals behind this is that we all moved to a point relatively rapidly (after going through everything you currently are) where we told the alien, "Hey you know what, I'm through with your bullshit.  I am jettisoning you from my life and I will be OK.  We won't be friends, we will barely be acquaintances because I have no room in my life for someone who has treated me the way you have.....buh bye."

The last thing I will state is sit down, quiet your mind and think about the implications as it relates to you (not her) of  catching your wife in the car with another man in a reclined position (I skim posts anymore so lack detailed knowledge of your situation but am also aware you have spied and are aware of at a bare minimum flirting) and not taking swift, decisive action.

IMO, it really speaks poorly of your character and self-esteem.  You need to get IC ASAP to sort out why you are willing to let yourself be betrayed like this and not firmly and definitively address the situation.
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2010, 05:10:31 PM »

OM = NO M......PERIOD.
 Dude stop being a doormat, for yourself.
Raise your head up grab your balls and set your boundries, waiting for scraps is not the way of a ALFA male.
  She's either with you or against you, there's no in between.
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2010, 01:51:17 AM »

We all went through what you are currently going through.

If you look around there are only a few of us here who made it through this storm with our marriages intact.  I would state that one of the defining principals behind this is that we all moved to a point relatively rapidly (after going through everything you currently are) where we told the alien, "Hey you know what, I'm through with your bullshit.  I am jettisoning you from my life and I will be OK.  We won't be friends, we will barely be acquaintances because I have no room in my life for someone who has treated me the way you have.....buh bye."



But...But...But...that is all I see from you SoSad.  But she saved my life...but she didn't know about cars...But SHE FUCKED YOU OVER!  Leave the BUTTS where they belong...BEHIND YOU!

You seem to keep hoping that YOUR Wife is some mythical MLC Unicorn that will POOF out of the MLC Forrest...Bud, she is just another Horny Jackass.  Doesn't mean she will stay that way forever...but at your rate of speed...she is going to be there for a LONG DAMNED TIME!  You are settling for being a Buddy and a Support System for a seriously sick woman making seriously bad choices...

Wanna Save Her...BLOW UP FANTASY ISLAND!  Because right now every action...and inaction...is telling her...Go Ahead Honey...you live your dreams and fantasies...I'll be here or the leftovers when your finished.  As my friend here likes to say...FUCK THAT...Fuck tht with the biggest stick in the yard!  Until you establish some consequences for bad behavior...expect MORE of it!

Your digging your own grave right now man...Jump the hell out of the whole...and push her sorry ass into it...offer no hand, no rope, no quarter...Let her FEEL & LIVE the joy she has created...make her f'ing SWIM in it!  It's YOUR ONLY HOPE.

Time to wake up Bro...you can do it!

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